$12 45, Resteal Spot?

[Justin Urbz]

I am looking to spark discussion for the non-regulars to pick up on crucial spots like this. I know what my move is here, but it's a good spot to start to pick up on to raise the ol' ROI.

Looking for thoughts on this resteal spot to get this forum going, no previous reads on villain, he is a random.

PokerStars Game #26663302642: Tournament #152889567, $11+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2009/04/02 22:56:13 ET
Table '152889567 2' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Misclick (6755 in chips)
Seat 3: BBsRJReich (3335 in chips)
Seat 4: ballerholic4 (2875 in chips)
Seat 5: Dans1515 (3120 in chips)
Seat 6: Sezgin2980 (3213 in chips)
Seat 7: chauncy (3330 in chips)
Seat 8: rontani (9814 in chips)
Seat 9: Glofre (6875 in chips)
Misclick: posts the ante 25
BBsRJReich: posts the ante 25
ballerholic4: posts the ante 25
Dans1515: posts the ante 25
Sezgin2980: posts the ante 25
chauncy: posts the ante 25
rontani: posts the ante 25
Glofre: posts the ante 25
BBsRJReich: posts small blind 200
ballerholic4: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BBsRJReich [Ac 7d]
Dans1515: folds
Sezgin2980: folds
chauncy: folds
rontani: raises 400 to 800
Glofre: folds
Misclick: folds
BBsRJReich: ??

Ballerholic4 left behind me to act, is the minraise a weak steal attempt or is this a trap?

[Eric]

My opinion, given that i am still new at turbos...

If you shove he's getting approx 1.8-1, I doubt a random is folding much with his stack behind. A7o is pretty weak here imo.

You're on the button next hand i think i'd wait for a better spot.

[Justin Urbz]

That is one possible explanation, bet let's move to a little bit higher level thinking than pure odds here.

If he is minraising UTG, then it is more likely to be a trap with his stack. But being in middle position here gives it a little more of a steal impression. If he wants a call or shove, I think he's going to commit more of his stack in order to induce that call by getting anyone who thinks they have a doubling hand to give him sick odds on a shove. By investing less, he's making it look like a trap while it's really a steal.

At least, that's my thought process. Anyone else want to input their thoughts on the hand?

[acekob]

Personally I think this might just be one of the spots where I'd consider a move if I had some sort of read on the player. What you know in this structure is obviously limited, but without any information about the player I'd probably lean towards a fold.

My thinking prossess is probably flawed after playing way to many 1.10-3.30 donkfests.

[vbnautilus]

You have almost no fold equity (he's a big stack getting great odds in a turbo), so I don't see how it could be considered a resteal spot. If you shove here its because you want a call, and I don't see why we'd want that with A7o against a raise.

Also, this is not a good resteal hand imo since when we do get called we are often dominated. I'd rather resteal with 68s.

[Justin Urbz]

Apr 3, 2009 2:35:08 GMT -5 vbnautilus said:

You have almost no fold equity (he's a big stack getting great odds in a turbo), so I don't see how it could be considered a resteal spot. If you shove here its because you want a call, and I don't see why we'd want that with A7o against a raise.

I suppose resteal IS the wrong terminology here. Combine this with my explanation from earlier and my main thoughts are pretty much summed up - I guess I used the term resteal because I know he's not calling here with how he played it, rather than calling it a shove spot.

FWIW, the results of this hand were I pushed and he folded.